Comments on: Seattle Schools to Cooper Elementary: We don't care about you or your building full of brown kids; talk to the hand http://www.sableverity.com/seattle-schools-to-cooper-elementary-we-dont-care-about-you-or-your-building-full-of-brown-kids-talk-to-the-hand/ Print.Pixel.Radio.Local.National.International Fri, 03 Sep 2010 21:58:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The Questioner http://www.sableverity.com/seattle-schools-to-cooper-elementary-we-dont-care-about-you-or-your-building-full-of-brown-kids-talk-to-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-917 The Questioner Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:29:15 +0000 http://sableverity.wordpress.com/?p=3243#comment-917 It seems pretty obvious from reading your blog that "being black" is like your religion or something. So why should I give a shit about what you think? It seems pretty obvious from reading your blog that “being black” is like your religion or something. So why should I give a shit about what you think?

]]> By: Sable http://www.sableverity.com/seattle-schools-to-cooper-elementary-we-dont-care-about-you-or-your-building-full-of-brown-kids-talk-to-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-916 Sable Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:06:59 +0000 http://sableverity.wordpress.com/?p=3243#comment-916 Way to break it down Excellence for All! Way to break it down Excellence for All!

]]> By: "Excellence for All" http://www.sableverity.com/seattle-schools-to-cooper-elementary-we-dont-care-about-you-or-your-building-full-of-brown-kids-talk-to-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-915 "Excellence for All" Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:03:58 +0000 http://sableverity.wordpress.com/?p=3243#comment-915 SomebodyElse, If Pathfinder takes over the Cooper building there will only be 69 spots for Cooper children to continue at Pathfinder. As stated before around 30% of our Cooper population is bilingual, and Pathfinder has no bilingual services. So, the children that can then attend Pathfinder cannot be bilingual. And there's also the issue of our autism programs. There are 24 children in our autism programs, which use four classrooms at Cooper. (Three individual classrooms and an additional room for occupational therapy) Taking that into consideration Pathfinder will have to compromise their space, and those children will be included in the 69 that get accepted to Pathfinder. Maria Goodloe Johnson actually addressed this issue in her initial proposal to the school board when she recommended looking at Arbor Heights and not Cooper. On page 40 in that document she states a case as to why she does not recommend closing Cooper. "Past closure processes recommended that Pathfinder be placed at the Cooper building. However, given current enrollment and placement of programs that have reduced the functional capacity of the buildings, we recommend placing Pathfinder at Arbor Heights. In order to put Pathfinder K-8 into the Cooper building one of two things would have to happen. Either Pathfinder would need to become an elementary school, or West Seattle Elementary would need to accommodate an additional 140 students. Pathfinder is the only K-8 in West Seattle. Becoming a K-5 would mean that families who wanted a K-8 would have to leave West Seattle. Because of a desire to have access to K-8 programs throughout the city, this action is not recommended. " -Preliminary Recommendation Report November 25, 2008, Maria L. Goodloe Johnson Further into the document she states that West Seattle Elementary based on it's functional capacity only has space for 75 of Cooper students. So where will our children go? I guess when reading the latest round of recommendations they want to spend more money to bus our children further and violate the student assignment plan. Good luck kids, sorry you have to wake up earlier and get home later. But, hey there's only 65 of you and you guys might be bilingual so it'll take a while before you notice. Thanks for the dialogue. SomebodyElse,
If Pathfinder takes over the Cooper building there will only be 69 spots for Cooper children to continue at Pathfinder. As stated before around 30% of our Cooper population is bilingual, and Pathfinder has no bilingual services. So, the children that can then attend Pathfinder cannot be bilingual. And there’s also the issue of our autism programs. There are 24 children in our autism programs, which use four classrooms at Cooper. (Three individual classrooms and an additional room for occupational therapy) Taking that into consideration Pathfinder will have to compromise their space, and those children will be included in the 69 that get accepted to Pathfinder. Maria Goodloe Johnson actually addressed this issue in her initial proposal to the school board when she recommended looking at Arbor Heights and not Cooper. On page 40 in that document she states a case as to why she does not recommend closing Cooper.

“Past closure processes recommended that Pathfinder
be placed at the Cooper building. However, given current enrollment and placement of programs that have reduced the functional capacity of the buildings, we recommend placing Pathfinder at
Arbor Heights.

In order to put Pathfinder K-8 into the Cooper building one of two things would have to happen. Either Pathfinder would need to become an elementary school, or West Seattle Elementary would need to accommodate an additional 140 students.

Pathfinder is the only K-8 in West Seattle. Becoming a K-5 would mean that families who wanted a K-8 would have to leave West Seattle. Because of a desire to have access to K-8 programs throughout the city, this action is not recommended. ”
-Preliminary Recommendation Report November 25, 2008, Maria L. Goodloe Johnson

Further into the document she states that West Seattle Elementary based on it’s functional capacity only has space for 75 of Cooper students. So where will our children go? I guess when reading the latest round of recommendations they want to spend more money to bus our children further and violate the student assignment plan. Good luck kids, sorry you have to wake up earlier and get home later. But, hey there’s only 65 of you and you guys might be bilingual so it’ll take a while before you notice.
Thanks for the dialogue.

]]> By: Brigitte http://www.sableverity.com/seattle-schools-to-cooper-elementary-we-dont-care-about-you-or-your-building-full-of-brown-kids-talk-to-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-914 Brigitte Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:11:10 +0000 http://sableverity.wordpress.com/?p=3243#comment-914 Thank you for writing about this mess. Thank you for writing about this mess.

]]> By: Sundquist’s alleged corruption taints Seattle Schools closure process « The Sable Verity http://www.sableverity.com/seattle-schools-to-cooper-elementary-we-dont-care-about-you-or-your-building-full-of-brown-kids-talk-to-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-913 Sundquist’s alleged corruption taints Seattle Schools closure process « The Sable Verity Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:51:27 +0000 http://sableverity.wordpress.com/?p=3243#comment-913 [...] See also: SPS to Cooper: We don’t have to listen to you [...] [...] See also: SPS to Cooper: We don’t have to listen to you [...]

]]> By: SomebodyElse http://www.sableverity.com/seattle-schools-to-cooper-elementary-we-dont-care-about-you-or-your-building-full-of-brown-kids-talk-to-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-912 SomebodyElse Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:21:36 +0000 http://sableverity.wordpress.com/?p=3243#comment-912 <i>It’s segregation at its finest. I am hearing the phrase “they just aren’t like us” being tossed around a lot by parents and teachers discussing parents and teachers and students from other schools. Also keep in mind that this is the second time Cooper and Pathfinder have “crossed paths”, so it’s just heaping negativity onto negativity....</i> You know, it's high time we get beyond that sqaubbling amongst adults. PTSA's, parent groups, teachers, need to come together and provide a decent school in the <i>building</i> that is Cooper, for all the children who may be going there now, and in the future. It’s segregation at its finest. I am hearing the phrase “they just aren’t like us” being tossed around a lot by parents and teachers discussing parents and teachers and students from other schools.

Also keep in mind that this is the second time Cooper and Pathfinder have “crossed paths”, so it’s just heaping negativity onto negativity….

You know, it’s high time we get beyond that sqaubbling amongst adults. PTSA’s, parent groups, teachers, need to come together and provide a decent school in the building that is Cooper, for all the children who may be going there now, and in the future.

]]> By: momster http://www.sableverity.com/seattle-schools-to-cooper-elementary-we-dont-care-about-you-or-your-building-full-of-brown-kids-talk-to-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-911 momster Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:26:55 +0000 http://sableverity.wordpress.com/?p=3243#comment-911 so i'm curious after reading all of the awful things going on at cooper under the watch of the bad principal, how again is this serving the cooper students and why again should they not have an opportunity at a better school? so i’m curious after reading all of the awful things going on at cooper under the watch of the bad principal, how again is this serving the cooper students and why again should they not have an opportunity at a better school?

]]> By: Sable http://www.sableverity.com/seattle-schools-to-cooper-elementary-we-dont-care-about-you-or-your-building-full-of-brown-kids-talk-to-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-910 Sable Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:13:09 +0000 http://sableverity.wordpress.com/?p=3243#comment-910 Very interesting idea. The challenging thing right now is families and PTSA's seem to be saying to each other "you keep your child over there and I'll keep my child over here". It's segregation at its finest. I am hearing the phrase "they just aren't like us" being tossed around a lot by parents and teachers discussing parents and teachers and students from other schools. Also keep in mind that this is the second time Cooper and Pathfinder have "crossed paths", so it's just heaping negativity onto negativity, especially when you consider the first time it was raised it was shot down as an idea that would never work (Pathfinder to Cooper) and now it seems that a certain school board member has dug up the grave and dragged that corpse to the dance. Too bad. Very interesting idea. The challenging thing right now is families and PTSA’s seem to be saying to each other “you keep your child over there and I’ll keep my child over here”.

It’s segregation at its finest. I am hearing the phrase “they just aren’t like us” being tossed around a lot by parents and teachers discussing parents and teachers and students from other schools.

Also keep in mind that this is the second time Cooper and Pathfinder have “crossed paths”, so it’s just heaping negativity onto negativity, especially when you consider the first time it was raised it was shot down as an idea that would never work (Pathfinder to Cooper) and now it seems that a certain school board member has dug up the grave and dragged that corpse to the dance.

Too bad.

]]> By: SomebodyElse http://www.sableverity.com/seattle-schools-to-cooper-elementary-we-dont-care-about-you-or-your-building-full-of-brown-kids-talk-to-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-909 SomebodyElse Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:06:35 +0000 http://sableverity.wordpress.com/?p=3243#comment-909 Sable, Why not advocate for automatic admission for Cooper students into Pathfinder? That would seem to kill many birds with one stone: reduce concentration of poverty, close a building, provide a decent middle school, reduce transitions because of the K-8, and remove a bad principal. Sable,

Why not advocate for automatic admission for Cooper students into Pathfinder? That would seem to kill many birds with one stone: reduce concentration of poverty, close a building, provide a decent middle school, reduce transitions because of the K-8, and remove a bad principal.

]]> By: SomebodyElse http://www.sableverity.com/seattle-schools-to-cooper-elementary-we-dont-care-about-you-or-your-building-full-of-brown-kids-talk-to-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-908 SomebodyElse Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:00:50 +0000 http://sableverity.wordpress.com/?p=3243#comment-908 And by the way, Cooper Supporter, saying that Cooper beats West Seattle (or Roxhill) WASLwise. is a huge joke. They've gotta do way better than that. Ever been to West Seattle Elementary School? It's the worst elementary school in the district. WASL isn't everything, but come on! 7% pass rate for 4th graders at West Seattle. The absolute lowest in the district. These students are being set up for a lifetime of failure, and it starts the first day they walk in. Beating West Seattle or Roxhill is no accomplishment at all. And by the way, Cooper Supporter, saying that Cooper beats West Seattle (or Roxhill) WASLwise. is a huge joke. They’ve gotta do way better than that. Ever been to West Seattle Elementary School? It’s the worst elementary school in the district. WASL isn’t everything, but come on! 7% pass rate for 4th graders at West Seattle. The absolute lowest in the district. These students are being set up for a lifetime of failure, and it starts the first day they walk in. Beating West Seattle or Roxhill is no accomplishment at all.

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